MTS is not a new concept

MTS is not a new concept, there is a software development tool that has most of the components "invented" in MTS and in LOP.

This tool is "PowerBuilder"

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What is MTS?

Tom

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Hello Thomas,

TS> What is MTS?

Moscow Telecommunication Systems :-))

Mobile phone provider :-)

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Alexey Efimov, Java Developer

Tops BI

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PowerBuilder? Its RAD tool for client/server applications. It includes DSL but it doesn’t have means to define other DSLs.

To my mind, it has nothing in common with LOP.

Igor.

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Thomas Singer wrote:

What is MTS?

Microsoft Transaction Server - the core of all COM+ technologies.

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My mistake, correct is MPS

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It has most of the components of LOP:

1-Base Language - Power Script

2-Special Editors - Painters

3-Visual representation for GUI, no need to compile or build executable, pcode representation.

4-DSLs

5-Structure, collection language an many more

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Hi Andrey,

From this list only structure is related to LOP. perhaps. Could you provide PB HelloWorld guilde?

Igor

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Hi Igor,

Thi si the web site:

http://www.sybase.com/products/developmentintegration/powerbuilder

You can download the info and eval.copy

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Please don't do it!!! PB is worst nightmare at my previous job. It's not related to MPS not in any way.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa again it.....

Even Delphi much better!!!

I hope PB is gone from this forums.

"PB is the best friend of Dr. Watson" one of my everyday jokes was when I work with it :-)

TIA,

Dmitry

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Hm, good pilot can fly everything, bad pilot cannot fly at all. Good programmer don't hesitate to use any tool to finish his task faster, bad programmer doesn't like PowerBuilder. ;o)

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Hi Andrey,

Are you romantic? PowerBuilder is a real scrap...

Why I can fly Delphi, Java, Oracle... And after flying PB I need a reabilitaion period? May be you fly not so long but after 4 years of part time usage of PB I know what I say.

(Only Java saves me all that time ;o) )

TIA,

Dmitry

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Ya, ya, ya! Java saves the time... Before you turn it up side down, write lots of classes and interfaces, create your own environment that has only 15% of real Java and the rest is yours, now you can do you real job and develop you project... That is where MPS and LOD came from - from the problem of Java or C++ development environment - you have to do a lot of work before you solve the problem you've got paid for.

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Hello Andrey,

Not "Java saves time" but "Java saves me".

In your perfect PowerBuilder even handle simple keyboard actions not easy task comparing to Delphi for example. If you build application and for some reason power will be lost  you have to migrate, rebuild, migrate, rebuild,migrate, rebuild dances to save your work and it's possible to lost it all. Integration with VCS is VERY VERY bad if you have more then one PBL and so on...

If you want to know all PB "features" you can contact me by email and I'll describe them to you. :-)

I'm leaving this topic now.

TIA,

Dmitry

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